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Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

The possessive sex memes are posted exactly one week apart, which is okay under the comm rules. And the second set of memes does the same. (sept 26 → oct 3; sept 27 → oct 4)

So both eke under the wire in that regard.

Neither of them meets the "first two pages" rule, though?

I mean I'm not here to tell you how to run the comm but the rules post says that's a rule.

(Commenting because I came here to represent another instance: http://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/3688591.html is a repost of http://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/3673919.html which is still on page 2.)

and yet the rule is "☞ Do not repost a meme that can be found on the first two pages of Bakerstreet, or that is less than a week old! (rule added on November 10, 2014)". (bolded the relevant part) if memes are moving slowly, they might take more than a week or two to get off the first two pages, which was also made back when the pages were a lot smaller. they're up to 30 posts per page now. it used to be 20. not for nothing, anon, but if you're going to parrot rules back at the mods, know the actual rule.

(and your complaint of the repost still falls under the over a week rule, as one is posted on a tuesday and so is the other.)

That does not actually contradict what I said, anon. "Or" means either or both can apply--the rule as written means that either "can be found on the first two pages" or "less than a week old" is sufficient to make "do not repost" hold true."

To make it a little easier to understand, consider the sentence "Don't eat snow that is yellow or brown," which is shorter but has the same basic structure. You'd understand that to mean you shouldn't eat snow that is yellow and you shouldn't eat snow that is brown. You wouldn't say it meant "don't eat snow that's both yellow and brown, but if it's only one of the two it's fine."

If the rule is meant to be that it's okay for it to be only one of those things as long as it isn't both of them, then it should say "Do not repost a meme that can be found on the first two pages of Bakerstreet and is less than a week old." Or actually it might be better to rephrase it. "Do not repost a meme unless either it cannot be found on the first two pages of Bakerstreet, or it is at least a week old."

Do not repost a meme that can be found on the first two pages of Bakerstreet, or that is less than a week old!

It is supposed to mean that you must wait at least a week and then see if the meme is on the first two pages. The logic behind is that we have weekly slots for the most popular memes. It would be strange if other memes could post more often than those.

If it's worded wrong, I will edit it. When I wrote that rule, it seemed clear to me, but maybe it's not for others. Apologies for any confusion.

That's exactly what I understand the current phrasing to mean, actually.

The issue is that someone reported meme posters not doing the second part ("see if the meme is on the first two pages") and the response was that it was fine because they did the first part ("wait at least a week").

Although in the meantime the previous posts have slipped down to page 3 so I guess it doesn't matter now.

when you have a rule that's phrased that like, the general consensus is:

do not repost a meme that can be found on the first two pages of bs, but if it is on the first two pages, if it's over a week old, you can post it. because the 'wait one week' is the commanding rule, added in because sometimes memes can move really slowly and you can have 2 weeks go by with the same memes on the pages during slow posting times. which is why 'memes have to not have been posted before a week is up'.

and again, this was back when the pages only displayed 20 posts. adding ten per page has added another 20 memes overall, which can make a lot of difference, as seen here.

if the mod is going to rewrite the rule, it should just be to follow the one week posting rule, because 'wah wah the second page near the bottom' is getting ridiculous complaints lately and it's proving how nitpicky everyone is. basic math, anon. we get anywhere from 0 to 5 memes a day. even at a cap of 5 (which isn't hit every day), that's 6 days of memes on the first two pages. it eeks in under the week rule, but if they went back to 20 per page, all these complaints would literally go away, because that's 20 memes that wouldn't show and no one would bother going back to pg 3 for.

It's true that changing the number of memes on a page changed the rule as well.

But is "wait a week" a sufficient rule then? Wouldn't that make the dedicated weekly slots redundant?

if you're asking me personally, i think all it needs to be is wait a week. the dedicated weekly slots were, imo, put there because those are the popular memes that people want to see and sometimes, people tried to coopt them by adding in similar memes or changing it up with a meme that didn't fit all the requirements. so for those memes, the ones we have scheduled, i think they're fine.

the others are... i don't know. i feel like people are just falling back on the same old same old because they're either bored, can't think of anything new, want to play this thing and are too impatient to wait for anything and have that mentality of 'if it's not on the first page, no one will see it. the week has always been a rule. it just hasn't always had to be enforced because, tbh, people used to be more willing to post more varieties of memes. we have a handful of meme posters that are trying to force a schedule that doesn't need to be because they just want shit to play. maybe, eventually, they'll move on, but there's really not much else you can do aside from enforce the rules as you guys have been. a week is enough, but again, this is just my opinion and other people will have other opinions.

frankly, i'd love to see more memes, more varieties, but the sad fact is that memes are just slowing down. we will never go back to what it was like a few years ago, so we have to adapt to what it is now. enforcing too much structure/rules is going to kill lingering interest, but the few rules you do have now SHOULD be kept in mind and adhered to. wait a week. if you can't, then yeah, you deserve to be penalized. discuss with the meme posters if they're repeat offenders of rule breaking and potentially ban them.

which doesn't really do squat other than force them to pick up a new sock since you can't ip ban, but, all you guys can do is the best you can do.

sorry, this got tldr.

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